Sometimes that means a DIY fix and other times it can mean a recall, software update or part replacement by a dealer. Can someone make a bike with 50% - 100% assist? Why so delicate, bro? Regardless ebike or "normal" MTB. If I pull the E-trigger, it'll still be a Levo SL now that S has worked through the issues. The reported cases of drive unit spindle breakages on our DU-EP800 drive units were combined with non-Shimano cranks. You can improve efficiency by limiting the maximum torque, though it is still possible to get maximum power out of the motor by pedalling at a higher cadence, so you wont necessarily get more range by limiting torque. However the motor operation itself is fabulous, smooth, powerful, feels natural when you ride, you can cover ground like crazy in this thing. The thing is though, you do actually get used to that noise. Lapierre e-zesty. According to the TSB, only Shimanos EP8 motor is affected. (7000km ridden so far). And in terms of backup service and support, the fact that there are far more Shimano dealers than there are Specialized dealers may also be preferable for some riders. Come join the discussion about bike parts, components, deals, performance, modifications, classifieds, trails, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! Approved crank arms are listed at si.shimano.com and are communicated towards bicycle manufacturers. There are no reported cases of spindle breakage of DU-EP800 when assembled with Shimanos cranks. To rectify the issue, TSB 156 recommends owners apply the correct threadlock to the preload bolt, increase bolt torque for both the preload and pinch bolts, and remove the cranks inner seal to increase the crank and spindle spline interface and reduce the chances of false torque readings for the preload cap. Posted Oct 21, 2020. Yesterday I drove down south to explore some new trail in Utah. Still, the performance in the adaptive E-MTB mode is excellent, with smooth and flexible power delivery, and riders wanting plenty of grunt will certainly dig the Bosch motor. Can I give 100 upvotes please? Update. Thats given us plenty of saddle time to compare and contrast the new motor not only with E8000, but also with the latest Bosch Gen 4 motor and the Brose-manufactured 2.2 motor in the new Specialized Levo. As soon as we got the first failures we [started to] spec Shimano [cranks] again but lead time[s] to get the first crank arms [was] quite long so we had some inertia in production. Do you think it could be only an issue with Carbon frames then? No, not at all. Here youll find three sliding scales for each of the three assist modes (thats Eco, Trail and Boost). The most prominent reports of EP8 axle failure exist on two EMTB forum threads. What is Shimanos take on e*thirteens metallurgic analysis findings? Already have an account with us? We like to setup Profile 1 with softer settings for maximum range when riding solo, and Profile 2 with the punchier factory settings for faster e-MTB group rides. Now well point out here that the Bosch Gen 4 motor exhibits a similar metallic clacking noise, since its internal gear system also employs a clutch. The downside for Bosch is that its display options leave a lot to be desired. However, all are fitted with Shimano cranks. Generally on bikes we spend so little time braking that regeneration would be a waste of effort. We see some comments about how bad the Shimano EP8 motor is. That rattle would drive me bonkers. Don't take things too seriously just get out there and enjoy whatever you own and have FUN! Having spoken with other long-term EP8 and Bosch Gen 4 users, it would appear that for many riders its a non-issue. That just isn't real world riding though, you just don't spend all your time in boost mode. That is not the case, but all cranks should be checked for proper tightness before riding, and initial installations procedures should be updated, reads TSB 156. But even then it is still quieter than my saddle bag bouncing around. Thanks to lightweight magnesium components, Shimano has shaved off a cool 200g of weight making it one of the lightest electric bike motors on the market today. Anyone knows what's are those white (ish) shoes the reviewer is using on some of the pics? For a lighter pedal feel than the E8000, the one-way bearing has reduced its rotational resistance, creating a free play. Weve ridden the latest Bosch Performance CX Gen 4 motor on a variety of e-MTBs, including the Cube Stereo Hybrid 160 and the Trek Rail. I tried to find out the cause of this. Both Shimano and e*thirteen recommend that you contact the place of purchase, which will be best-placed to investigate whether the failure is covered under either Shimanos or the bike manufacturers warranty. Thanks! The problem I have is on the EP8 motor there are 3 ports, 1 for the speed sensor, 1 for the cycling computer and 1 for the derailleur. When they start looking (and weighing closer to regular trail bikes then I'll consider. Its also a very quiet motor when pedalling. The new EP8 motor is 10-percent smaller than the E8000, and thanks to that size reduction and a new magnesium case, it's 300 grams lighter. Alex moved to Morzine in the French Alps at 19 to pursue a career as a bike bum and clocked up an enormous amount of riding. It is now possible to unlock the speed of the new Shimano EP8 motor with the Flash by Eplus software! The Bosch motor produces the same 85Nm peak torque output as Shimano EP8, and it offers a similarly drag-free ride quality beyond the 25km/h cutoff due to the motor decoupling from the cranks. As mentioned above, the Assistance Character bears the biggest influence on the motors on-trail feel, and dialling this down can make quite a big difference to the amount of range you can get from the battery. Now, we're not going to be working on the actual. Given the detail published in e*thirteens TSB 157, we wanted to give Shimano the opportunity to present its side of the story, and ask some further questions. Easy fix. Furthermore, the range estimation is more accurate in our experience too. Looks like Rocky(Dyname), Giant(Yamaha) and Specialized(Brose) are in for 2021 and Shimano and Bosch are out. Shimano's EP8, short for DU-EP800, features a higher maximum torque of 85Nm compared to the older E8000's 70Nm, topping it by an extra 21%. The lighter weight is a big plus as well. The EM800 display features built-in Bluetooth and ANT+ wireless connectivity for pairing both your phone and a compatible GPS head unit, allowing you to display information such as battery life and remaining range. 2c - If preload cap has no threadlock patch pre applied: The maximum rider support was raised to 400%, compared to the E8000's 300%. SpecializEd # levo SL is a great benchmark Have had a Specialized Levo & sold it due to making weird noises, so yes other manufacturers have problems too, not saying that is easy to get good reliability with new technology, but my Shimano e-8000 motor has been more reliable even is very wet weather! Appreciate the level of detail in this article, good work. Maximum power output sits at 500W, although the continuous power output is set at 250W like most motors. Click on a component to learn more. Don't worry: "Every time you start your pitchfork, it resets into 'no stab' mode. There are a lot of factors that influence range including rider weight, tyre choice, trail conditions, and elevation. And compared to E8000, the new EP8 motor is considerably more powerful on the trail, whilst retaining the smooth and intuitive delivery that weve always dug about Shimanos drive units. Along with the svelte carbon frame, that helps to reduce the total bike weight to as low as 16.2kg, creating a potentially worthy adversary to the Specialized Levo SL. With 21% greater torque than E8000, the EP8 motor delivers substantially more punch on the trail, and it feels more usable too. Environmentally I think they're a disaster as well - rare earth elements in the batteries for one thing. Ebikes are great as a self shuttle, especially for time limited people. For commercial info: info@eplus.bike. We bought drive units and crank arms, we are replacing at our cost all damaged parts and are covering labor [and] shipping costs that might occur. You still have the three basic assist modes: Eco, Trail and Boost. Shimano has put its long-running Steps E8000 format to pastor and heralds in its EP8 motor unit for 2021. So then it gets really confusing as it seems like the first bar lasts 30% and the last one 10%. Its almost as if the battery drains faster in that final 20%. Weve noticed this while pedalling along forest double tracks and on the road to and from the trailhead, but its also apparent when sprinting along faster sections of singletrack. Quick everyone, it's another article about e-bikes grab the pitchforks! Basically any minor impact that causes the chain to bounce and tug at the chainring will result in noise. Plus the prices will drop as the tech becomes cheaper and can be offered at lower prices. This allows bike companies to engineer a single frame, while offering cheaper models with a 504Wh battery, and high-end models with a 630Wh battery. Its clear why this motor is becoming popular with so many bike brands, given the flexibility it offers frame designers, particularly with the variety of battery options on offer. It is a feature bro, the sound of pure class. When we make fun of others, its because we are not happy w ourselves. And you can take the motor together with a battery out in matter of seconds. Shimanos overarching advice is for consumers to only use Shimano-approved pedal cranks on its EP8 motors. In the lower settings, youll have to pedal really hard to get maximum support the motor. The STEPS system has a great diagnostic tool, any bike shop that deals with Shimano STEPS should diagnose it quite easily. Sources at numerous ebike suppliers have told Cycle Volta this week that releases of new EP8-equipped electric mountain bikes are being held up, on Shimano's direction. Shimano said August was the best. The belt-driven design is also a touch quieter when pedalling, and theres no clacking noise either. Specializeds Mission Control app continues to be the market leader in terms of connectivity, tuning options and user-friendliness. Shimano's EP8, short for DU-EP800, features a higher maximum torque of 85Nm compared to the older E8000's 70Nm, topping it by an extra 21%. Recalled but still was delivered with the rattle. I also have Commencal 2021 meta power sx. Side-by-side, the EP8 motor is slimmer around the belly and so offers a skerrick more ground clearance. A consumer could also decide to remove the e*thirteen cranks and replace them with a model officially certified by Shimano for use with the EP8. He started racing downhill at the tender age of 11 before going on to compete across Europe. JavaScript is disabled. Let us know what those are so we can demand them! As much as I want an emtb right now, I am waiting until the technology is perfected. Put on i9 Hydra hubs, annoying motor rattle sounds disappears. Durability and ease of maintenence is far more important than power in my world. I rode the engine too, the thing is the engine is super quiet once you charge on the pedals, and you've got that annoying rattling noise as soon as you are on the freewheel and cruising down the trail Shim is working on it from what they said. Occasionally it can feel a little peakier compared to EP8, but for the most part both motors are easy to get used to within a few rides. However, when coasting on rough terrain the unloaded system can exhibit a normal clicking sound that may be detectable to the rider. First revealed to the world in September of last year, Shimano EP8 finally arrived on the e-MTB scene as the successor to the very popular Shimano E8000 motor. Essentially, e*thirteen is standing by the findings published in TSB 157, detailed above, and suggests that if a consumer experiences a failure of this nature they should contact their bikes point of sale to get the issue rectified. When the motor applies torque it pushes in one direction and closes the gap, when there is no torque the ring can rock a little. quieter(+) smaller(+) lighter(+) more power(-) battery range(=). I have no personal experience riding with pedal assist but when I hear the high whiz from the motor I think that would drive me mad too. As mentioned earlier, the Bosch motor does feel punchier than Shimano EP8, with noticeably stronger support at lower cadences. Over the past six months of riding, the Shimano EP8 motor has really impressed us with just how much punch it delivers from such a lightweight and compact package. A dinamo or recharging when braking or something That's what I'm still waiting for! Most brains will be capable of doing this, as the noise in question isnt actually signalling a fault with the motor. This occurs if the cap is not correctly tightened or the factory-fitted threadlock hasnt been adequately applied, and if the crank arms pinch bolts arent tightened to their correct torque. Was thinking the same thing. @tomdesoals: That excuse that Shimano put out by their customer service dept . With the Spectral:ON for example, which has very short chainstays and a relatively slack seat tube angle that puts your weight further over the rear axle on steep climbs, it helped to dial down the Assistance Character (to 6/10), the Maximum Torque (to 78Nm) and the Assistance Start (to 4/5) to soften the bikes power and acceleration. The Purion controller is vastly simpler and easy to read, but it looks cheap and its bulky, making it an awkward fit with brake and dropper levers. - Low-drag performance Also heard of this happening to another EP8 up in park city, 5 miles on the motor, and did the same thing mine did. We asked Shimano and e*thirteen for comment on the spindle cracking issue. Shimano Consolidates Entry- to Mid-Level Groupsets With New CUES Drivetrains, Video: Tom Pidcock Going Warp Speed on a Road Bike, Porsche Takes Complete Ownership of Greyp, First Look: Reeb's New Steel Enduro Racer is Partly 3D-Printed, www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/wanneroo/bicycle-parts-and-accessories/men-s-petrol-bike-mountain-bike-/1259285475, www.cyclevolta.com/story/ebike-components/hold-up-shimanos-new-emtb-motor, www.avdweb.nl/solar-bike/solarbike/maxun-solar-bike. Visit the high-res gallery for more images from this review. I run the previous version steps e8000 and I think it's brilliant. While weve certainly been impressed by the power, ride feel and tuneability of the Shimano EP8 system, how does it stack up against the likes of Bosch and Brose/Specialized? Hopefully we will have a system with little weight penalty in a few years. Don't all e-bikes feature walk assist? While midly annoying, it only takes a couple button presses to get back to get an 800% stabbing strength increase! So why has no one made a motorized gearbox yet? Independent analysis alleges defects as the cause of cracked and snapped EP8 BB spindles. Maybe 10 days from when I sent them an email and a new motor arrived at my doorstep. But yeah, different people. The only Shimano-approved pedal cranks listed on Shimanos website are the FC-EM600, FC-M8150 and FC-EM900, all of which are available to buy aftermarket from various retailers. only one port which needs to be connected directly to the motor. 5Nm doesnt sound like much on paper, but on the trail the Levos 2.2 motor is noticeably musclier than Shimano EP8, particularly at the extreme ends of the cadence spectrum. I own the Levo SL, and it is the most refined ebike I have ridden so far. I love the progression of Ebikes! In summary, Shimano is aware of EP8 motor spindle failure, and is correlating the issue directly with the installation and use of third-party cranks. "While we dont expect people to ride with their phone on their handlebars when mountain biking" - Buddy, you must not have seen many e-bike riders. If there is no threadlocker patch, move onto point 2c. Good thing with Shimano is warranty,at least here in Madrid is almost instantaneous. It's like a dirt bike with a 15 mile range. - A little more overrun on technical climbs would be swell
However, you do pay for all that refinement and integration. A forum community dedicated to Mountain Bike owners and enthusiasts. Sell it to me, bet ya cant specially at a respectable 90 keys. It's significantly more muscle, which was much-needed in order for Shimano to keep . But to give you some numbers, weve consistently achieved around 1,500m of climbing during our 30-50km test rides. e*thirteen is one of the biggest OEM suppliers of cranks on electric mountain bikes. That is, spme pretension or a clutch like system. Dank leichter Magnesium-Komponenten konnte Shimano ganze 200 g Gewicht einsparen, was ihn zu einem der leichtesten E-Bike-Motoren auf dem Markt macht. Overall it is a very refined system though. I've never heard the rattling noise that has been posted in the early reviews - the motor is super quiet, so it looks to me like much ado about nothing. Limiting the maximum torque is something youll notice more at low cadences in high-load applications rather than general trail riding. One of the more intriguing aspects of EP8 is the ability to fine-tune the motors performance via Shimanos E-Tube Project app. I've spent some time on this motor and it's one of the first to feel organic in the way it adjusts to the rider's pedaling. Shimano also claims this issue is entirely isolated to non-Shimano cranks, stating it is aware of 49 reported cases of spindle failure. Both bikes were fitted with e*thirteen cranks. So that would include rocks, hops, trackstands but also sudden boosts from a standstill. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I want to use the Shimano EP8 motor for a small production of solar bikes. Assistance Character This adjusts the motors support level, which is how easily the motor delivers its power based on your input. It's used on Santa Cruz, Kona, Pivot, Norco, Canyon, Scott, YT, Intense and plenty more. Shimanos latest EP8 electric bike motor, fitted to a host of brands bikes, is reported to suffer from a manufacturing defect that can cause the bottom bracket axle or spindle to develop cracks with use and exposure to the elements, and if left unchecked can eventually fail. Some claim it's a dangerous motor that suffers spindle failures. Despite the musclier performance, weve had excellent results in terms of range, with the Bosch motor regularly achieving more miles and elevation over EP8. As well as being smaller, lighter and more efficient, the new EP8 drive unit also packs more punch with up to 85Nm of torque, bringing it up to speed with the latest power plants from Bosch, Yamaha and Brose/Specialized. In the higher settings, the motor will deliver maximum power without you having to pedal very hard at all. I had the same issue with my Yamaha but it was last winter. Some say it's unreliable with a high risk of getting bricked. Can we get reviews this in depth for regular bikes? The updated Trail mode is brilliant, and the option to fine-tune each assist mode is a welcome feature for achieving the desired feel while maximising range. - Strong but very well-tuned power delivery Wait, 23-27kms? Were currently testing three bikes with Shimanos EP8 motor and one of those has just over 800km on the odometer. Thus, I could ride a few feet with power then the motor would cut off. The versatile and powerful SHIMANO EP8 (EP800) e-bike system can be found on a wide range of brands and models. Another bike that features Shimano EP8 is the new Orbea Rise. Additionally, Shimano produces a smaller and lighter 504Wh option, which is also cheaper and helps to bring the complete bike price down see the sub-$8K Polygon Mt Bromo N8 for example. I haven't had the privelage to ride any bosch equiped bikes or other shimano bikes but this thing is so quiet I think it would be hard to find another ebike motor that is more silent. - Range estimation is not reliable. Would you like to receive offers, updates and events from BikeRadar and its publisher Our Media Ltd (an Immediate Group Company)? Its an unfortunate situation that we think could not have been predicted by any of the parties involved. Great for climbing, on the descents the weight changes how I ride, not better or worse. Have had my Norco Range LVT with the EP8 for a week and have noticed the noise, maybe once? Take note of how much elevation you achieve during those rides (elevation is more important than distance when determining range), and keep that number in mind when youre planning future all-day epics. Under this condition, with each ride the crack can expand, and this can result in a spindle breakage.. The way the 2.2 motor smooths out un-smooth rider input is very impressive, giving it the most natural feel on the trail of any full-power motor weve tested. Commencal which has sold a number of its Meta Power electric bikeswith an EP8 motor and e*thirteen crank combination replied to our inquiries. By their own standards of non-assist components, this motor is not worthy of the shimano name. Start with a full battery, select the Trail mode, and see how far you can go before you run out of juice. Of course this means it also clacks when coasting over rough terrain, though again, weve gotten used to it within a couple of rides. If a dynamo can be worked into the wheel hubs, you may even get near perpetual charging while the system is in use. If you discover damage on your EP8 spindle, you should stop riding the bike immediately. Hitting those famous tracks day in, day out for eight years, he broke more bikes than he can remember. In terms of improvements, EP8 is marginally lighter (300g) and smaller in volume (10%) over the old E8000 motor. I mean, one of the most beautiful things about the bicycle is how efficient and capable it is of traveling long distances under our own power. Quote Start New Topic Post a reply to: SHIMANO EP8 - won't turn on (new bike) Hopefully this option will open up to non-Garmin users in the future. Can't see the equivalent of a ribbed chainstay protector happening. Is this a review for ants? Wait until you see how much work it takes to replace rear derailleur housing! Simply named by Specialized as the 2.2, the motor continues to offer 90Nm of peak torque, and externally it has the same mounting points and overall shape. All you guys "waiting" to get a ebike are blowing it..the bikes are refined trek rail no problems..going around the country slaying every trail I see chugging beer and laughing at all u haters.. believe me I guys will all be on one sooner than later. 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